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	<link>http://www.spanglishgringo.com/weblog/2007/04/10/all-checked-in-for-my-flight/</link>
	<description>Stories, thoughts &#038; insights on Jesus, college students, and the Bible; Los Angeles, immigration, politics, ethnicity and culture, and also about my daughter Isabel - from a spanglish gringo father living in, learning from, leading &#038; loving life in East L.A.</description>
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		<title>By: Eddy E</title>
		<link>http://www.spanglishgringo.com/weblog/2007/04/10/all-checked-in-for-my-flight/#comment-1382</link>
		<author>Eddy E</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 04:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On my way to Mexico City in a few hours and will most likely pick up the Economist (it's my little candy for the flight)... I would imagine Tom's definition of the WSJ is probably that of pretty much everything that is meant to sell in the US...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On my way to Mexico City in a few hours and will most likely pick up the Economist (it&#8217;s my little candy for the flight)&#8230; I would imagine Tom&#8217;s definition of the WSJ is probably that of pretty much everything that is meant to sell in the US&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Nate Young</title>
		<link>http://www.spanglishgringo.com/weblog/2007/04/10/all-checked-in-for-my-flight/#comment-1326</link>
		<author>Nate Young</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 05:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Walt--Good to hear from you as well.  You do sound like the same old Walt I remember--able to be warmly friendly and contrarian at the same time.  Let me know how to get in touch with you.  Check out my life at this site--www.aslanfiles.com.  And, I'm going to be dad in June!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Walt&#8211;Good to hear from you as well.  You do sound like the same old Walt I remember&#8211;able to be warmly friendly and contrarian at the same time.  Let me know how to get in touch with you.  Check out my life at this site&#8211;www.aslanfiles.com.  And, I&#8217;m going to be dad in June!</p>
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		<title>By: Walter</title>
		<link>http://www.spanglishgringo.com/weblog/2007/04/10/all-checked-in-for-my-flight/#comment-1321</link>
		<author>Walter</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 16:53:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.spanglishgringo.com/weblog/2007/04/10/all-checked-in-for-my-flight/#comment-1321</guid>
		<description>First, its good to see Nate Young's name in a post - if you read this, Nate, hope you are well!

I occasionally read the WSJ at work.  I actually like the personal journal section the best, because it sidesteps the serious issues and focuses on things like the best frequent flyer programs, new gadgets, and retirement and estate planning issues (which fit into my line of work).

The comment that "we don’t have to single out and praise stuff for our Christian readers that is straightforwardly idolatrous" is interesting to me.  I would heartily agree if Scott were recommending Maxim magazine, but the WSJ is a nationally respected newspaper, albeit one with a financial focus.  

The focus of the WSJ is well, Wall Street, and so an emphasis on business and markets comes with the territory.  In turn, the WSJ also focuses on how political and global developments affect the markets.  For example, explaining how the deterioration of the war in Iraq might affects the price of oil and US stocks may seem trivial (or mercenary) compared with the tragic affect of the war on the lives of Iraqis, but this is the side of the story that the WSJ has decided to tell.  Just because there are other facets to the story doesn't necessarily make the WSJ's perspective valueless.  Readers can turn to the New York Times, the BBC or a Christian publication - if someone can recommend a good one let me know -for the other side of the story.

Finally, is it a bit paternalistic or un-transparent to privately enjoy the wall street journal to learn things and keep up with cultural trends, but not share with others that you enjoy doing so?  Instead of saying he is "looking forward to reading the Wall Street Journal ... Always a good read" should Scott have said "I am reading the Wall Street Journal, a potentially idolatrous newspaper, solely to keep up with cultural trends"?  What Scott wrote sounds a little more honest.

I apologize in advance if I sound contrarian, I can have a bad habit of playing devil's advocate - a skill perfected in my Freshman year bible study.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, its good to see Nate Young&#8217;s name in a post - if you read this, Nate, hope you are well!</p>
<p>I occasionally read the WSJ at work.  I actually like the personal journal section the best, because it sidesteps the serious issues and focuses on things like the best frequent flyer programs, new gadgets, and retirement and estate planning issues (which fit into my line of work).</p>
<p>The comment that &#8220;we don’t have to single out and praise stuff for our Christian readers that is straightforwardly idolatrous&#8221; is interesting to me.  I would heartily agree if Scott were recommending Maxim magazine, but the WSJ is a nationally respected newspaper, albeit one with a financial focus.  </p>
<p>The focus of the WSJ is well, Wall Street, and so an emphasis on business and markets comes with the territory.  In turn, the WSJ also focuses on how political and global developments affect the markets.  For example, explaining how the deterioration of the war in Iraq might affects the price of oil and US stocks may seem trivial (or mercenary) compared with the tragic affect of the war on the lives of Iraqis, but this is the side of the story that the WSJ has decided to tell.  Just because there are other facets to the story doesn&#8217;t necessarily make the WSJ&#8217;s perspective valueless.  Readers can turn to the New York Times, the BBC or a Christian publication - if someone can recommend a good one let me know -for the other side of the story.</p>
<p>Finally, is it a bit paternalistic or un-transparent to privately enjoy the wall street journal to learn things and keep up with cultural trends, but not share with others that you enjoy doing so?  Instead of saying he is &#8220;looking forward to reading the Wall Street Journal &#8230; Always a good read&#8221; should Scott have said &#8220;I am reading the Wall Street Journal, a potentially idolatrous newspaper, solely to keep up with cultural trends&#8221;?  What Scott wrote sounds a little more honest.</p>
<p>I apologize in advance if I sound contrarian, I can have a bad habit of playing devil&#8217;s advocate - a skill perfected in my Freshman year bible study.</p>
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		<title>By: Nate Young</title>
		<link>http://www.spanglishgringo.com/weblog/2007/04/10/all-checked-in-for-my-flight/#comment-1315</link>
		<author>Nate Young</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 11:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What up, Scott-ie?  I'll sidestep the serious issues you and Tom are disccussing, and get to something trivial but nevertheless, pretty cool.  The Dallas Mavericks recently signed Kevin Willis to a 10-day contract.  At age 44, he is the 2nd oldest person to play in the NBA, according to an on-line source.  I've been checking the stats sheets, and  yesterday, he got his first PT with the Mavs--scoring no points, but pulling down one board!  You go, old man.  I guess this means I could declare my eligibility, and have a solid 8 career years ahead of me.  Can't wait to suit up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What up, Scott-ie?  I&#8217;ll sidestep the serious issues you and Tom are disccussing, and get to something trivial but nevertheless, pretty cool.  The Dallas Mavericks recently signed Kevin Willis to a 10-day contract.  At age 44, he is the 2nd oldest person to play in the NBA, according to an on-line source.  I&#8217;ve been checking the stats sheets, and  yesterday, he got his first PT with the Mavs&#8211;scoring no points, but pulling down one board!  You go, old man.  I guess this means I could declare my eligibility, and have a solid 8 career years ahead of me.  Can&#8217;t wait to suit up.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Pratt</title>
		<link>http://www.spanglishgringo.com/weblog/2007/04/10/all-checked-in-for-my-flight/#comment-1309</link>
		<author>Tom Pratt</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 04:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nothing frightful about reading the WSJ. I read it regularly. 

I read it for the same reasons you cite. 

We all have to keep up with cultural trends.

But from my point of view we don't have to single out and praise stuff for our Christian readers that is straightforwardly idolatrous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nothing frightful about reading the WSJ. I read it regularly. </p>
<p>I read it for the same reasons you cite. </p>
<p>We all have to keep up with cultural trends.</p>
<p>But from my point of view we don&#8217;t have to single out and praise stuff for our Christian readers that is straightforwardly idolatrous.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.spanglishgringo.com/weblog/2007/04/10/all-checked-in-for-my-flight/#comment-1304</link>
		<author>Scott</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 21:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.spanglishgringo.com/weblog/2007/04/10/all-checked-in-for-my-flight/#comment-1304</guid>
		<description>Tom, Thanks for the Economist recomendation. (And for the respect &#38; curiosity :)  I hadn't always found the Economist when I fly, but bought it today along with WSJ. It was also a great read.

To your question, I read the WSJ for the same reason that I read (and saw) The Da Vinci Code - both in spite of &#38; in light of its many false teachings - and recommended it to others, for the same reason that I attended a secular school like Oxy - with its own false teachings - and would recommend it to others, and for the same reason that I engage with many secular influences - to learn things.  

I don't see the WSJ as spiritual pornography, and so I can benefit from both its information &#38; the perspectives even of its blatantly mammon-loving teaching.  In that way, it is no different to me than going to see a controversial movie like The Da Vinci Code - not seeing or not reading it doesn't prepare me at all for the influence that is has on specific individuals that I know or the general culture that I live in.  Since I believe that learning to form a critical opinion - of anything - is a significant part of the discipleship of a believer, I engage &#38; read.  And I think the WSJ being a good read makes this easier to do than other things.

Those are my quick thoughts. I'm not sure that I understand how out of the ordinary or frightful - from a serious faith perspective - it is to read the WSJ, in the same way that I read the Da Vinci Code. Maybe you could fill that out for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom, Thanks for the Economist recomendation. (And for the respect &amp; curiosity <img src='http://www.spanglishgringo.com/weblog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I hadn&#8217;t always found the Economist when I fly, but bought it today along with WSJ. It was also a great read.</p>
<p>To your question, I read the WSJ for the same reason that I read (and saw) The Da Vinci Code - both in spite of &amp; in light of its many false teachings - and recommended it to others, for the same reason that I attended a secular school like Oxy - with its own false teachings - and would recommend it to others, and for the same reason that I engage with many secular influences - to learn things.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see the WSJ as spiritual pornography, and so I can benefit from both its information &amp; the perspectives even of its blatantly mammon-loving teaching.  In that way, it is no different to me than going to see a controversial movie like The Da Vinci Code - not seeing or not reading it doesn&#8217;t prepare me at all for the influence that is has on specific individuals that I know or the general culture that I live in.  Since I believe that learning to form a critical opinion - of anything - is a significant part of the discipleship of a believer, I engage &amp; read.  And I think the WSJ being a good read makes this easier to do than other things.</p>
<p>Those are my quick thoughts. I&#8217;m not sure that I understand how out of the ordinary or frightful - from a serious faith perspective - it is to read the WSJ, in the same way that I read the Da Vinci Code. Maybe you could fill that out for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.spanglishgringo.com/weblog/2007/04/10/all-checked-in-for-my-flight/#comment-1292</link>
		<author>Mark</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 05:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have a safe flight! Viva La Raza!</description>
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		<title>By: Tom Pratt</title>
		<link>http://www.spanglishgringo.com/weblog/2007/04/10/all-checked-in-for-my-flight/#comment-1290</link>
		<author>Tom Pratt</author>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 02:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the Economist but have never been a fan of the WSJ. 

Great writing, yes. But the values seem pretty socially Darwinian and focused on mammon in a straightforward way.  

Why would somebody living your encouraging life recommend the WSJ to others?

I say that with all respect and curiosity. 

I'd love to hear your thoughts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the Economist but have never been a fan of the WSJ. </p>
<p>Great writing, yes. But the values seem pretty socially Darwinian and focused on mammon in a straightforward way.  </p>
<p>Why would somebody living your encouraging life recommend the WSJ to others?</p>
<p>I say that with all respect and curiosity. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to hear your thoughts.</p>
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